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    Go/Weiqi/Baduk

    Post  KingK on Sun Feb 06, 2011 11:06 am

    Do any of you know/play it?

    Im not very good at it, but im willing to play with people, im currently playing on gokgs.com's servers, if anyone is interested in playing with me, please tell.

    For people who have no idea what Go is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Go_%28game%29


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    Re: Go/Weiqi/Baduk

    Post  Syaoran on Sun Feb 06, 2011 11:10 am

    Oh I'm willing to play. I have GO on my phone, but I'm not very good.
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    Re: Go/Weiqi/Baduk

    Post  KingK on Sun Feb 06, 2011 12:29 pm

    Played with jfh009, was fun.

    However, all future games will probably be on a 13x13 board rather than a 19x19 one.


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    Re: Go/Weiqi/Baduk

    Post  Zyrden on Mon Feb 07, 2011 3:38 am

    Oh sure, I'll play with you. I'm a beginner though, and so far I am losing hard :/
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    Re: Go/Weiqi/Baduk

    Post  KingK on Mon Feb 07, 2011 8:02 am

    Oh hey, its the Denmarkian.

    You have msn or something?


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    Re: Go/Weiqi/Baduk

    Post  Zyrden on Mon Feb 07, 2011 2:38 pm

    Not installed, no. Mainly I use Skype and Steam. But I can get it if needed.
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    Post  KingK on Tue Feb 08, 2011 2:30 am

    Oh, I have Skype too, I'll PM you my username.


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    Re: Go/Weiqi/Baduk

    Post  shadowclasper on Wed Feb 09, 2011 11:02 am

    I've gained a new interest in go simply because it's possibly THE MOST COMPLEX GAME I HAVE EVER SEEN O_O

    edit: well what I mean is that it is the most complex given out simplistic the rules and mechanics are. Really, it's only an up scaling of the mechanics behind connect4 and tic-tac-toe and Othello. The basic mathematics behind them remain the same, yet Go, with it's infinitely simple playing, is so complex in it's expansion of options and choices during play that to-date, we're barely able to make a computer able to play at a novice level, let alone against a grand-master, compared to Chess, which has more complex rules, yet the mathematics behind it are much, much, MUCH simpler, to the point where computers can destroy opponents of ANY level.
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    Re: Go/Weiqi/Baduk

    Post  KingK on Wed Feb 09, 2011 11:47 am

    Well, the main difference is that chess is about taking pieces, whereas GO is about territory.

    If up for a game if you want, I play on the gokgs.com server as mentioned earlier.

    Just msg me on msn or something.


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    Re: Go/Weiqi/Baduk

    Post  Dio on Wed Feb 09, 2011 11:50 am

    shadowclasper wrote:THE MOST COMPLEX GAME I HAVE EVER SEEN

    You'll bite your tongue when you work out the basic rules.
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    Post  KingK on Wed Feb 09, 2011 11:53 am

    well, he DID go on and specify what he meant with complex.


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    Re: Go/Weiqi/Baduk

    Post  shadowclasper on Thu Feb 10, 2011 11:50 am

    Dio wrote:
    shadowclasper wrote:THE MOST COMPLEX GAME I HAVE EVER SEEN

    You'll bite your tongue when you work out the basic rules.

    the basic rules are amazingly simple, as I stated, the game itself though is more complex than anything I have ever seen before.

    Think of it this way, even games like Starcraft, that have HELLISHLY complex rules if you were to put them on a table top, can be played in an expert manner by a computer program.

    But Go has maybe, ooooh, what? A set of about 5-10 simple rules? Yet there is no computer on this earth that can play it in more than a novice fashion. The mathematics behind it are endlessly complex to the point where we do not have a synthetic calculating system capable of concieving the optimal strategy.

    Now, compare and contrast with tic-tac-toe, which is really just an ultra simplified version of Go. Vegas has 13 chickens, FUCKING CHICKENS, who if given the first move, are capable of beating human opponents. Realize that chicken brains have approximately the processing power of a graphing calculator, if that (if you beat the chickens you win 10,000 bucks, so seriously, the casino is betting on the chicken winning here if it's given the first move). Now, Go, which follows GENERALLY the same mathematical principles, just scaled up enormously, is impossible for any computer to master.

    Do you understand NOW why go has intrigued me? o_O this shit is insane, it's the CORE PRINCIPLE of simple rules that lead to complex simulations. If I can figure out Go, I can apply the principles to ANY GAME I MAKE >>
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    Re: Go/Weiqi/Baduk

    Post  KingK on Thu Feb 10, 2011 12:33 pm

    Well, supposedly, mastery of Go can be applied to everything from combat to business.

    Computers are gradually getting better at Go though, there's a 2nd Dan computer on the KGS servers, and considering max rank is 9 Dan, its actually a pro player.

    KGS is considered somewhat "easy" though.


    On a different note, I've played some more with Zyrden, he's pretty good.


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